The Gravesend Railway Enthusiasts Society

History of the Gravesend Railway Enthusiast’s Society by Geoff Miall
CHAPTER 1
In 1969 I realised that many of my friends were interested in the same things and we talked about Railway Clubs but did nothing. I decided that if nobody else would do anything it was up to me, and accordingly I invited about twenty five friends to a meeting at my house to discuss forming a Railway Society in Gravesend. On Monday 19TH January 1970, I wrote "The Gravesend Railway Enthusiast’s Society held its first meeting at St. Gregory’s Crescent.
All those who attended were friends of mine and all interested in Railways in all shapes and sizes, and indeed in Transport in general. We discussed the forming of a Railway Society and I agreed to contact the Principal of the Adult Education Centre at 38 Pelham Road to see if he would let us have our first meeting there.
The Principal was agreeable to let us have an Inaugural Meeting there. He offered to lend us the 16mm Talkie Projector which we used to show British Transport Railway Films. And so G.R.E.S was born.
The actual Inaugural Meeting of our Society was held on the 5th June 1970 at the Adult Education Centre, and 89 people were present. I welcomed every one and then outlined the reasons for the meeting. Whereon some members of the Gravesend Model Marine & Engineering Society got up and stated that we did not need another Railway Society as we already had one in themselves. Accordingly I asked them what were the aims of their Society and they replied "to build engineering models and run them". This meant that there was no contest between us as we were interested in all forms of Transport, but railways in particular, and we wished to meet together to talk about Railways and show Railway films. Also to run Model Railways, visit Railway sites to see engines and ride behind them. Reluctantly the Model Marine & Engineering Society backed down and withdrew their objection and opposition to us.
Gravesend Adult Education Centre is in the background of this1953 view of Gravesend Central

We then showed a British Transport Film called The Elizabethan on the Adult Centre’s own Bell & Howell projector (16mm talkie) and this was really something, everyone was enthralled. We next got down to the business of choosing a Chairman. Ian Davis was proposed and he accepted the office being duly elected. I was proposed as Secretary and as we could not find a Treasurer I agreed to take on this post as well until we really were on our feet as a Society. (Strange to say I kept these offices for about five years before I managed to persuade Ray Shields to take over as Secretary and I remained as a humble Committee member.)
After the official business was over we showed another film entitled This is York, another film classic which we have shown many times since. The decision was taken to meet every month at the Adult Education Centre, and this we did with a programme of BTpt Films. Then David Ashenden and Fred Wilmshurst offered us a Friday evening at the Northfleet Football Club Supporters Hut at Stone Bridge Road where we could run Hornby OO gauge trains on an old Table Tennis table.
Tom Hanks even brought along his O gauge clockwork trains. The track was laid down
at every meeting but not fixed as the table had to be removed after each meeting.
One of the junior members, David Howard, managed to keep knocking the Engines off
the track by running them too fast and acquired the name Wrecker for his pains. This
name stuck -
CHAPTER 2
From the beginning in 1970 my son Robin and David Walton had been visiting Ashford
Steam Centre at Willesborough, which was the old Ashford Works Running Sheds. Esmond
Lewis-
There was about a quarter of a mile of track on which to run and we used old railway sleepers for firing as they were plentiful, and this is when my son Robin learned to drive a loco. David Walton drove the steam crane built by Smiths of Rodley, which was called Horace. It is still in operation in preservation somewhere.
We would drive down to Ashford on a Sunday morning and work all day on various Railway projects. My wife, Hilda, and I used to work on two Pullman coaches called Sapphire and Lucille where we cleaned the brass work (bronze really), dusted the seats and generally cleaned the wood panelling etc. Very interesting too. I believe that these coaches are also still about somewhere. They were very elegant and even had stained glass windows.
These were activities later on for GRES Members and we had quite good support. Trevor Hurdle came with us before he joined the Signalling Staff at Dartford when they changed to Colour Light signalling. I think he is now based at Ashford and someone saw him not long ago on Television actually driving a loco, so good luck Trevor wherever you are.
Our first Chairman, Ian Davis, was also Chairman of the Medway Military Modelling
Society which built Military Plastic Models (originally Airfix -
When Ian Davis wanted to give up the Chairmanship of GRES I managed to persuade Tom
Hanks to take over as Chairman, a job he held for ten or more years -
CHAPTER 3
The Gravesend West Branch, which ran from the bottom of Stuart Road out to Rosherville,
Southfleet, Longfield & Fawkham Junction to Swanley -
I wrote to the Hospital Board and obtained permission to visit the site, and the old Gravesend West Station, to see if there were any relics of the Branch Line remaining. I was able to get into the cellar underneath the Station and found a pile of damp papers, waybills, goods receipts etc, dating back in some cases to 1897 and 1913. Some I managed to save while others I photographed.
The final object I was able to retrieve from my search was the half of the Gravesend West sign which used to be on the platform approaching West Street Station. All I got was ESEND WEST, the GRAV part was missing. We think it was used by one of the coal merchants at the Goods Yard to reinforce the bed of one of their lorries. Anyway I made some enquiries but it was never forthcoming.
Gravesend West Street
I recently gave a lecture to the Gravesend Historical Society on the Gravesend West
Branch, which was attended by about 120 people -
Back to the 1970’s, David Walton and my son Robin discovered that the Blue Circle Cement Works at Swanscombe were getting rid of their Saddle Tank locos, which used to draw the chalk from the quarries to the cement plants in Swanscombe. The quarries were nearing the end of their lives and they were using Rolls Royce engined diesel locos to do what was necessary.
So the lads managed to get an introduction to David Workman, the Managing Director of Swanscombe Cement Works, and explained that they belonged to a properly constituted Railway Society and they thought it would be a nice idea if our Society could preserve one of the steam locos. David Workman wrote to me, as Secretary, and Tom Hanks, as Chairman concerning this to arrange a meet to discuss the matter.
I approached one of my school friends, Ridley Bruce (who was a Solicitor), to draw
up a Constitution for our Society which, with alterations to bring it up to date,
is still in force today. He would not take a penny for his efforts so we were well
away. David Workman was impressed by our Constitution and seeing that we were really
in earnest we were invited to choose one of the five locos, all Hawthorn Leslie 0-
In due course a presentation ceremony was organised, with the press present, and
a photograph appeared in the Daily Telegraph showing the official handover of the
Loco to our Chairman -

Blue Circle Cement No 1
We now had to find somewhere to keep the loco. We approached Esmond Lewis-
CHAPTER 4
From 1971/72 until 1976 there were working parties from GRES going down to Ashford
Steam Centre, mostly on Sundays, to work on No. 1 and other projects -
Whilst we were at Ashford there were several other Steam Projects going on. A body of people from a Society formed to preserve a NORD Pacific from France managed to get their loco shipped over and installed at Ashford whilst they worked on it, getting it ready for steaming. It had not been long out of use so they were very lucky and in no time at all were running up and down on the quarter of a mile of sidings and track which were there. We all managed to get a footplate ride on this and it was a big engine. Eventually I think it went to the NENE Valley Railway at Wansford where they operated for some time.
Then a Society was formed to preserve a Bulleid Pacific Loco straight out of service from Nine Elms Depot. Eventually 35028 Clan Line (a Merchant Navy Class) came to Ashford Steam Centre and was another Project which originated there. It made the visits to Ashford much more interesting and we were fortunate to be there to see it. I think Robin managed to get a footplate ride though I was not so lucky.
35028 Clan Line at Ashford Steam Centre

All went very happily until May 1976 when we were informed by Peter Rogers, one of the Trustees of the Steam Centre, that it was closing as Esmond Evans, the Curator, had not managed to get his investments out of Kenya which should have paid for the rent of the Steam Centre from British Rail. Accordingly we were advised to get No. 1 out of the Centre as soon as possible as BR were sending their Bailiffs in. This would mean commandeering everything at the Centre so we would have to get our Loco away, and with a weeks notice we actually managed to do this.
Once again the problem arose -
Once again the same Transport Contractor who had moved No. 1 to Ashford came to our rescue and we had another Photographic Session for all the Society on the move from Ashford to Castle Hedingham. This was in July 1976 and from then on the weekends seemed to be occupied in getting ready for our visit to Castle Hedingham on the Sundays, where we were involved in helping lay track or other projects connected with building the Station which had been transported from about three quarters of a mile further up the track towards Halstead.
Dick Hymas and his Father worked for a Timber Merchants who had bought the original site at Castle Hedingham Station, and the station buildings etc. were in the way so Dick managed to get permission for the station to be demolished brick by brick and transported to the new site where it was going to be a completely new Castle Hedingham Station. I am pleased to say that we were fully involved in the rebuilding and operation of the new station. They were also given a Signal Box from CRESSING on the LT&SR line, which was lifted and put on a Lorry and brought to the site and erected as Castle Hedingham Signal Box. It is not often that one gets involved in the evolution of a new Railway.
CHAPTER 5
Before we get any older and progress to the Colne Valley I wish to tell you of the first tours of Historical interest that we were involved in. One of our original Members, Derek Harris, operated two Citroen Safari Taxis as well as a light Removals contract which also involved a School Meals Service. My son Robin and I used to help Derek when his drivers were off sick or otherwise engaged. Derek dreamed up an idea of operating Tours to places of Railway interest on a Sunday or weekend in one of his taxis i.e. looking at some of the Railway lines axed by Dr. Beeching or otherwise had ceased to exist. This is how GRES DH Tours was born.
Citroen Safari

On the first one we went to Colonel Stephens line, the Kent & East Sussex Railway. First to Headcorn to see where the branch parted from the line to Ashford. This was quite evident running away to the south but we could not find Frittenden Road Station or Biddenden, but we did find High Halden Station looking all forlorn with no track to it. Then onto St. Michaels where we discovered the old tunnel underneath a Housing Estate, which had just been built, but no trace of the station. Next was Tenterden Town Station, complete with a Coal Contractors still using the Goods Yard and large Coal piles which had been whitewashed all round the front to prevent people helping themselves.
There was not much stock in evidence so we went to Rolvenden Station over a level crossing near a Water Mill. Here we found a collection of wagons and coaches and also quite a number of original Loco’s. Lots of Terrier Tank engines and two USA Dock tanks named Wainwright and Maunsell in large letters on their sides. There was also a Great Western Diesel Railcar powered by an AEC bus engines and a Ford Motor, which I think was diesel powered.
They had managed to clear the line as far as New Mill where it needed a bridge over a stream before they could proceed as far as Wittersham Road , which was the extent of the existing track. This was altogether a very good trip and was enjoyed by all who went. As far as I remember, the main people who went on these Tours were Freda & George Shields, our family, Dave Fisher and Chris Turner because we were all people without our own transport.
We went to the Staines West branch to see what remained because Chris Turner wanted to write a book about it as someone was trying to restore what was left. At Colnbrook the Station was still extant but not much else, so we moved onto Quainton Road where they were in the early stages of trying to run a railway into Aylesbury Station. Here we found the first APCM Hawthorn Leslie Loco which had been preserved from Swanscombe Cement Works No. 3. I think it was in good running order. They had as yet only lengths of track and sidings and part of a goods yard but so far no buildings, and were erecting an Engine Shed to cope with a Beattie Well Tank loco which was happily running up and down the lines. They were also erecting a station platform but so far only of sleepers. They called this the Buckingham Branch. One thing they had in parts and very rusty was the stripped down boiler, wheels and many parts of a GW King ( I believe it was King Edward I ).
Another GRES DH Tour took us to the Nene Valley Railway at Peterborough , or rather Wansford, shortly after its inception. Here we could not use Wansford Station building as it was owned by a Transport Contractor so they were busy building a platform opposite the other station with a portable shelter. Britannia Loco No. 70000, the first Standard Class loco, was in store in a Railway Tunnel adjoining Wansford Station prior to being restored to full running order. There were other interesting goodies but we did not get a train ride that day.
GRES DH Tours visited Haverthwaite and then a trip on the line to Lakeside where
we crossed Lake Windermere on a Steam Vessel still operated by BR-
Next morning we went over the Carnforth Goods Yard where the McAlpine family had a collection of loco’s, including 4472 Flying Scotsman just back from America where they had to settle debts run up on its visit to the USA. I still have slides of that visit.
CHAPTER 6
Continuing with the GRES/DH Tours, another one took us to Malton in Yorkshire where we stayed overnight at a very nice pub. I forget its name but it had Roman remains in its back garden. We visited Rillington Junction signal box, later modelled by Paul Hanks. Then we went to Pickering and the North Yorkshire Moors Railway, having a train ride to Grosmont whilst Derek took the Citroen Safari round by road to pick us up and bring us home.
Black 5 No 45110 entering Levisham station on the North York Moors Railway

I have a slide showing Freda & George Shields walking through the tunnel at Goathland to the engine sheds where they stabled the Lambton Tank Engines which they were working on. Some of the slides we took were used for a Photographic Competition run by GRES. Derek Harris certainly filled the need for Railway oriented Transport for people without their own. Without Derek we would not have seen half of the Preserved Railways of Great Britain. He even took Robin, driving the other taxi, when they visited The Hague and the Hoorn Medemblik Stoomtrams in Holland .
Our first visit to the Bluebell Railway was with Derek. We called at Horsted Keynes but it was not open so we progressed onto Sheffield Park and had a look round. There were no trains running that day so we looked over the Engine Sheds and were very pleased to see the H Class Loco we had last seen running at Ashford Steam Centre. I do not remember what all the engines were but I do remember the Terrier Tank Bluebell was really painted Blue and looked in good condition. Birch Grove was there, several very large engines in pieces, one or two traction engines and even old double deck Buses.
We progressed to the next station down the line which was Barcombe where a Coal Contractor was using the Station as his Office, and at Barcombe Mills the track still ran through the Station which was in quite a good state of repair. I thought it would make a good house if only I could buy it, but that never happened. The Station buildings at both stations were exactly the same as at Sheffield Park .
Now for another visit we made to the Keighley & Worth Railway. We stayed at the Airedale Guest House overnight and spent all day on the Railway. At that time the Railway had just purchased an AC Railcar and that was running quite well. Another time we made our first visit to the Leighton Buzzard Railway. At Pages Park where Pixie was the loco running that day to the Stonehenge Works of a Sand Quarry. (Editors note Pixie was featured on the front cover of the June Newsletter). There was a De Winton, one of the first Slate Quarry Locos used at Dinorwic Quarry at Llanberis. This had an upright Coffee Pot Boiler
GRES later had a tour by Portsmouth Corporation Double Deck Leyland PD1 to Leighton Buzzard, and our second Bus Tour there was by London Transport RTL preserved by the Dartford Branch of LT. We were friendly with Peter Stanier who was an Inspector for LT and he arranged this for us. Peter owns a Traction Engine and more interesting a Leyland Lioness open tourer Charabanc, the only one in existence. On this second Bus Tour I have slides of George & Freda Shields watching us put the Coaches on the track after rails spread at 5mph. But this was a very interesting weekend and the De Winton Loco was in process of being steamed for the first time since restoration and I attempted to record the trip sitting on the loco, but the Safety Valve stuck just open and ruined all the tape. But apart from the De Winton Chaloner ran very well.
We had a weekend with Derek in Cornwall and the first line we looked for traces of was at Plymstock, but there was nothing worth looking at so we went to view I.K Brunel’s Saltash Bridge , which was a very good Engineering feat. We saw a Great Western Warship run over the bridge. We then went onto look at Bodmin Road where the station had just been acquired by a preservation group. Back at Launceston we stayed overnight with Andrew & Marina Webb. In the morning it was a visit to Liskeard for a ride on the Liskeard & Looe Branch in the pouring rain. Chris Turner and I got soaked looking for the "Loo". Going to St. Austell we put the Citroen Safari on the Motor Rail and this meant on long drive back home. We arrived at Addison Road , Olympia from where we made our way home after a very good weekend.Derek Harris was certainly a pioneer of GRES visits to preserved and extinct Lines
CHAPTER 7
Our first visit to Chapel & Wakes Colne on the Colne Valley Railway was with Derek Harris. Here the line runs through Marks Tey to Chappel & Wakes Colne over a red brick viaduct and is quite impressive. They were using Chappel Station as a Bookstall to raise funds for their preservation effort and the goods yard had quite a comprehensive selection of stock of all kinds, including a Traction Engine. They were hoping to get permission from BR to operate the line as far as Sudbury , but BR were reluctant to part with a still profitable branch line.
It was here we made friends with Dick Hymas and his father, and shortly after a visit here we heard that a breakaway section of this group had purchased a length of the old Colne Valley branch between Halstead and Castle Hedingham. This was about a mile of the track bed up the line from Castle Hedingham towards Yeldham.
About a month later we made a visit to the site where they had decided to rebuild Castle Hedingham Station. Dick Hymas worked for a Timber Merchant who owned the site. They were developing it for their timber yard and did not want the station. The new project were offered the station buildings at Castle Hedingham. They demolished them and transported them to their own site. This they were in the process of doing when we visited and two platforms had just been built. But the main problem was that the bridge over the River Colne had been taken away when the line was closed, so this had to be replaced. Then after this there was only about ¾ mile of track bed before it reached a main road and the bridge this end had also been removed.
When we arrived about 5 people were trying to move a steam loco along a short length of track by pinch bar and brute force. So we added our weight but it still took about three hours before we managed to move the loco away from the roadside. We had made new friends and really worked hard, but surely building a railway was never an easy task.
One interesting trip we made with Derek was St. John’s Station, which has been altered a lot since the Lewisham train disaster in SE&CR days. We then went onto Holborn Viaduct where we were to meet Gordon Mackley, one of our early members, a friend of Andrew Goodwin, also an early member of GRES. Gordon went to University to get his degree and then was employed by British Rail and he rapidly moved up the ladder until now he was Stationmaster of Holborn Viaduct Station. At that time he was actually living in Westenhanger Stationmasters house and working between Ashford and Holborn Viaduct.
Gordon took us down lots of steps into nether regions under Holborn Viaduct Station. After collecting two Tilley Lamps and high visibility vests we walked through a system of tunnels no longer in use, which were very interesting. This was an early cross London route which had been forgotten about but was destined to become the NEW Thameslink route in 1988. The last we heard of Gordon he was Station Master at Ashford so GRES never did him any harm.
Another visit we made was to the last day of running of the BRIDPORT Branch to Maiden Newton. This was via Toller and Powerstock. The people of Bridport were upset because they had no Bus Service either, so it was a sad day for them.
Sadly I have to announce that Derek Harris passed away two or three years ago, but
we certainly owe him a great deal for his foresight. One of his main interests was
Ticket Collecting and he wrote a classic book on the subject, and I did manage to
get a pre-
CHAPTER 8
I remember one day we set off for Castle Hedingham when we heard that the Army had
managed to put a bridge over the River Colne. That morning I spoke to the Army Officer.
He explained to me that before anything else could be done all the rust should be
chipped off from the main girders of the bridge and then it would need painting.
After this the bridge support beams could be laid to carry the railway track. Whilst
the rest of our party employed themselves on other duties, including work on No.
1, I was asked if I would start this work, so I spent all day sitting astride the
main girders chipping away all the rust, and following that a Work Promotion party
was employed to paint the girders with bitumen paint -
The next project the Railway was doing was setting up a Picnic Area close to the station, where visitors could relax when they came to view or to work. This was just over the other side of the River Colne. Surely this would be an asset in the Summer and useful for children to play in.
So far the station building from Sible & Castle Hedingham had been dismantled brick
by brick and re-
In the mean time Dick Hymas had been working on a Coach with a Kitchen, to be installed at the beginning of the line so that visitors could obtain food at any time. This was operated by my Wife.
I have already mentioned how our Loco No. 1 came to be at Castle Hedingham. Well
from then to 1976 I think we used to go every Sunday morning to work on it. Firstly
we took off the saddle tank and then Ken Chalk and Ian Rush forth removed the tubes
from the Boiler. I spent many hours inside the Boiler chipping the hard water scale
from its inside, which took about three weeks (or rather three days). Then the Firebox
needed attention so I climbed inside for more chipping. I certainly was a glutton
for punishment in those days. Eventually we had the Insurance Inspector down to inspect
both the boiler and the firebox. He said that it was alright to start re-
We never did manage to get any arsenical copper sheets but then Cornhill Insurance
Society took over our original Insurance firm and sent their own Inspector to re-
The monies we had raised for No. 1 were put towards obtaining Jupiter, a Robert Stevenson & Hawthorn Loco at Chappel and Wakes Colne, which had been put up for sale at what is now the East Anglian Steam Museum. This was a Loco which did not need much work on it and could be used more or less right away.
Jupiter

So I think the last time I was at Castle Hedingham Station we went as a family. My son, my wife and myself to see Jupiter in steam and ride behind it. That was a memorable day, to see the latest improvements to the line and we enjoyed our visit very much. There was another platform opposite the original one linked by a footbridge. This had a station building, which had been made to look like an original Colne Valley building. This was used as a shop and was brilliantly stocked.
That was the end of my Steam Preservation days because then I had to have a Gall
Bladder operation, so I concentrated my efforts on local restoration of the New Tavern
Fort for the Gravesend Historical Society. After my operation I did manage to get
a month on the Steam Railway of India by way of recuperation in November 1978. My
brother Peter, Laurie Marshall and Peter Spencer, who were also GRES Members, accompanied
me on this trip -
That is where I leave my recollections of the beginnings of the Gravesend Railway Enthusiast’s Society.
CHAPTER 9 -
When the Club had to leave Northfleet Football Ground I happened to know the Trustees of the Comrades Club in Queen Street who had a vacant floor at the top of their building, and managed to persuade them that it would be to their advantage to have a Railway Club above them. The room was in a derelict condition so we volunteered to refurbish it, replace plaster in places and generally make the room usable. We were there for three years or so, until a new Caretaker arrived. He lived on the middle floor and after a time his wife complained that when our Members walked up the stairs, past their flat, it woke their baby up ! We were hauled before their Committee who gave us notice to quit. So we had to find somewhere else to meet.
My wife did part-
The School then built a new Junior School on ground which used to be the Barracks off Wellington Street and appointed a new Headmaster, Cyril Ford, who I knew as he was a member of the Gravesend Historical Society. I did quite a lot of work for the school and later on we moved to meeting in the new School. During that time we kept our meetings going at a very reasonable rent.
Cyril Ford eventually retired and there were new demands on the use of the school hall during the evenings. The new Headmaster was less inclined to a railway society and the other prospective users could afford to pay more than we did. So once again we were evicted and required to find a new venue. Strange to say, I had nothing to do with finding the Meeting Place at Singlewell Road Presbyterian Church, however I think you will agree that I have served the Society faithfully through the years.
During the years I was on the Committee, whenever the Editor could not, I did manage to carry on with the Newsletter as I have always believed that this publication is the life blood of the Society, so if members could not get to meetings GRES News would keep them in touch with what was going on.
I do not have a computer though I did purchase a Duplicator to be able to keep our Newsletter going. This means I cannot help in any way with the production of our present Newsletter. However I should like to congratulate Ray Puddy and George Clark for their sterling work in producing a very fine and worthwhile Newsletter, which we can be proud of and with very fine illustrations. Well done Ye! (in the words of Canterbury Cathedral Choirboys)
That concludes my Saga of GRES
Geoff Miall
Since I started repeating this history, Geoff passed away in April 2008. This history stands as a tribute to him, for both his work in founding GRES and his achievements with other local groups and churches.
Geoff Miall

Postscript
Some years have passed since Geoff wrote the above article, and we have had a change of home since then We currently (2010) meet at the Emmanuel Baptist Church in Gravesend. The Society is currently 40 years old and continues to provide pleasure to those interested in railways and transport.
Bob Poole